Twenty-first century folk define flesh as being about the body. So the human body, in popular Christian thought, gets paired against the spirit. But that's not at all what the apostle Paul meant by flesh (sarx) in the book of Romans. He was being nuanced, technical even. He wanted to establish a comparison that remains critical even for believers today. In many ways, we are what we think about. In this shotgun of a theology-and-culture episode I also explain why governmental systemic machines hate populism. What we are seeing here in the United States—with our media's tarnishing, branding, and scolding of populism—is occurring around the world. To prove the point I describe recent elections in Italy, Germany, France, and Venezuela. Earlier, at the show's beginning, I offer three long-established definitions of theology and what I like about each one. Come think and laugh with me.